rhythmbox packages

[seth vidal]

Hey,
I posted some rhythmbox 0.6.0 packages the other day to:

http://linux.duke.edu/~skvidal/RPMS/rhythmbox/

Would it be possible for those to be released as bug-fix errata for
0.5.4

I know it's not important but it does speed up rhythmbox tremendously.

I had to make almost no changes to the 0.5.4 spec file.

-sv

[Matthias Saou]

seth vidal wrote :

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Post by seth vidal
I had to make almost no changes to the 0.5.4 spec file.

Heh, yeah... the previous spec was awful, but I managed to get a whole
bunch of changes accepted before the freeze, thanks to Jonathan :-)

Matthias

[seth vidal]

Post by Matthias Saou
[...]

Post by seth vidal
I had to make almost no changes to the 0.5.4 spec file.

Heh, yeah... the previous spec was awful, but I managed to get a whole
bunch of changes accepted before the freeze, thanks to Jonathan :-)

If I had any spare time, which I don't, I'd love to sit down and look
atr the gstreamer-plugins package and fix it. It should be a bunch of
packages with %if statements for enabling/disabling mp3 support easily.

so you could install gstreamer-plugin-mp3 instead of a whole package
replacement.

-sv

[Matthias Saou]

Post by seth vidal

Post by Matthias Saou
[...]

Post by seth vidal
I had to make almost no changes to the 0.5.4 spec file.

Heh, yeah... the previous spec was awful, but I managed to get a whole
bunch of changes accepted before the freeze, thanks to Jonathan :-)

If I had any spare time, which I don't, I'd love to sit down and look
atr the gstreamer-plugins package and fix it. It should be a bunch of
packages with %if statements for enabling/disabling mp3 support easily.
so you could install gstreamer-plugin-mp3 instead of a whole package
replacement.

Not only mp3, but also flac, alsa and others... I'll try to look into that
very soon, as I'm still using rhythmbox with the xine engine myself :-)
Maybe my changes to the xmms spec file, if made conditional (trivial) could
also be included like the ones to rhythmbox were, as it adds xmms-mp3 and
xmms-alsa sub-packages.

Hmmm, shouldn't this be discussed on fedora-devel-list though? ;-)

Matthias

[seth vidal]

Post by Matthias Saou
Not only mp3, but also flac, alsa and others... I'll try to look into that
very soon, as I'm still using rhythmbox with the xine engine myself :-)
Maybe my changes to the xmms spec file, if made conditional (trivial) could
also be included like the ones to rhythmbox were, as it adds xmms-mp3 and
xmms-alsa sub-packages.

I know someone will be upset but I'd be more than happy for xmms to die.
I used soundjuicer and rhythmbox for a while the other night and I'm a
lot happier from an organizational perspective with those two.

soundjuicer is so incredibly simple - if it only imported the ripped
files immediately into rhythmbox, I'd be incredibly happy :)

Post by Matthias Saou
Hmmm, shouldn't this be discussed on fedora-devel-list though? ;-)

probably :)

-sv

[Doug Stewart]

seth vidal wrote:
| I know someone will be upset but I'd be more than happy for xmms to die.
| I used soundjuicer and rhythmbox for a while the other night and I'm a
| lot happier from an organizational perspective with those two.
|
| soundjuicer is so incredibly simple - if it only imported the ripped
| files immediately into rhythmbox, I'd be incredibly happy :)
|
|

Have you looked at the Beep Media Player (aka GTK2+ port of XMMS)?

http://linux-media.net/beep/

It's not good at organizing like Rhythmbox, but it does represent a
better version of xmms.

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[seth vidal]

Post by Doug Stewart
Have you looked at the Beep Media Player (aka GTK2+ port of XMMS)?
http://linux-media.net/beep/
It's not good at organizing like Rhythmbox, but it does represent a
better version of xmms.

But that's just it. I don't want a gtk2+ port of xmms. I want something
that is more than just what xmms is.

Rhythmbox is that thing.

-sv

[Matthias Saou]

Post by Doug Stewart
| I know someone will be upset but I'd be more than happy for xmms to
die.| I used soundjuicer and rhythmbox for a while the other night and
I'm a| lot happier from an organizational perspective with those two.
|
| soundjuicer is so incredibly simple - if it only imported the ripped
| files immediately into rhythmbox, I'd be incredibly happy :)
Have you looked at the Beep Media Player (aka GTK2+ port of XMMS)?
http://linux-media.net/beep/
It's not good at organizing like Rhythmbox, but it does represent a
better version of xmms.

I totally agree regarding xmms... I only use it currently when I need a
random play of a bunch of songs, while making sure none are played twice,
which rhythmbox doesn't do (and with my luck, I often get the same song
played 3 times in a row...). Beep looks nice, I'll definitely try it out.

Matthias

[Bill Nottingham]

Post by Matthias Saou
played 3 times in a row...). Beep looks nice, I'll definitely try it out.

When I looked at beep, *all* it was was a straight GTK2 port of the UI;
the underlying featureset didn't change.

Bill

[Bill Nottingham]

Post by seth vidal
soundjuicer is so incredibly simple - if it only imported the ripped
files immediately into rhythmbox, I'd be incredibly happy :)

sound-juicer was too simple the last time I looked; the way
quality was set was not really logical.

Bill

[seth vidal]

Post by Bill Nottingham

Post by seth vidal
soundjuicer is so incredibly simple - if it only imported the ripped
files immediately into rhythmbox, I'd be incredibly happy :)

sound-juicer was too simple the last time I looked; the way
quality was set was not really logical.

quality is a reasonable default (192bit vbr) and is settable in
gconf-editor using oggenc's quality levels iirc

-sv

[Bill Nottingham]

Post by seth vidal

Post by Bill Nottingham
sound-juicer was too simple the last time I looked; the way
quality was set was not really logical.

quality is a reasonable default (192bit vbr) and is settable in
gconf-editor using oggenc's quality levels iirc

When I looked at the patch, quality was set either 1-4 or 0-4,
which corresponded somewhat randomly to vorbis' quality level.

Oh, and anything like that shouldn't be only exposed through
gconf-editor.

There was also the issue of it randomly not encoding things; that
might be fixed in the new version, though.

Bill

[Christopher Blizzard]

Post by seth vidal
Hey,
http://linux.duke.edu/~skvidal/RPMS/rhythmbox/
Would it be possible for those to be released as bug-fix errata for
0.5.4
I know it's not important but it does speed up rhythmbox tremendously.
I had to make almost no changes to the 0.5.4 spec file.
-sv

Somebody was saying that it had a lot of problems with the gstreamer
that was shipped with fedora. Is this actually the case?

--Chris

[seth vidal]

Post by Christopher Blizzard
Somebody was saying that it had a lot of problems with the gstreamer
that was shipped with fedora. Is this actually the case?

I installed it on a stock fc1 machine and it ran just fine.

I play oggs on it all day long.

hasn't even crashed yet.

-sv

[Ben Steeves]

Post by seth vidal

Post by Christopher Blizzard
Somebody was saying that it had a lot of problems with the gstreamer
that was shipped with fedora. Is this actually the case?

I installed it on a stock fc1 machine and it ran just fine.
I play oggs on it all day long.
hasn't even crashed yet.

Same here, 'tho I do get an annoying dialog which reads "Failed to
activate the shell: (null)" every time I start it up. It doesn't seem
to have affected it's utility at all though.

Rhythmbox will do 'til there's iTunes for Linux :-)

[seth vidal]

Post by Ben Steeves
Same here, 'tho I do get an annoying dialog which reads "Failed to
activate the shell: (null)" every time I start it up. It doesn't seem
to have affected it's utility at all though.
Rhythmbox will do 'til there's iTunes for Linux :-)

<shudder>closed source software<shudder>
No thanks, I'll continue to use things that are completely free.

-sv

[Scott A Phipps]

Post by Christopher Blizzard

Post by seth vidal
Hey,
http://linux.duke.edu/~skvidal/RPMS/rhythmbox/
Would it be possible for those to be released as bug-fix errata for
0.5.4
I know it's not important but it does speed up rhythmbox tremendously.
I had to make almost no changes to the 0.5.4 spec file.
-sv

Somebody was saying that it had a lot of problems with the gstreamer
that was shipped with fedora. Is this actually the case?
--Chris

I recompiled rhythmbox to play mp3's and it had problems with FC1's
gstreamer. The biggest thing I saw was that if I selected ESD for
gstreamer output, then rhythmbox would not go on to the next song when
it got to the end of the one currently playing.

[Pau Aliagas]

Post by Scott A Phipps
I recompiled rhythmbox to play mp3's and it had problems with FC1's
gstreamer. The biggest thing I saw was that if I selected ESD for
gstreamer output, then rhythmbox would not go on to the next song when
it got to the end of the one currently playing.

I had almost given up on using it because I could not find the reason of
this behaviour. Changing it to OSS make the songs play one after the
other.

Is this bug fixed? Should we move to the next gstreamer release (0.64)?

Thanks
Pau

[Kevin Francis]

this is a bug iirc.
it is being fixed for the next release i think. try locating RPMs for
the latest version ( it was released 2 weeks ago? And it prolly has MP3
etc. ).

--
Kevin Francis
<http://denial.loose-screws.com/>

Post by Pau Aliagas

Post by Scott A Phipps
I recompiled rhythmbox to play mp3's and it had problems with FC1's
gstreamer. The biggest thing I saw was that if I selected ESD for
gstreamer output, then rhythmbox would not go on to the next song when
it got to the end of the one currently playing.

I had almost given up on using it because I could not find the reason of
this behaviour. Changing it to OSS make the songs play one after the
other.
Is this bug fixed? Should we move to the next gstreamer release (0.64)?
Thanks
Pau
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[Law Horne]

Post by Matthias Saou
Not only mp3, but also flac, alsa and others... I'll try to look into that
very soon, as I'm still using rhythmbox with the xine engine myself

Rhythmbox with xine. I have seen this at rhythmbox's site but I could
never compile it right(mainly because I suck at compiling and never took
the time to get it right, and then discover dag's rpm :) ). But I was
wondering did you compile this just for yourself? Or is there a rpm? I
only know of dags and his uses gstreamer.

[Matthias Saou]

Post by Law Horne

Post by Matthias Saou
Not only mp3, but also flac, alsa and others... I'll try to look into
that very soon, as I'm still using rhythmbox with the xine engine myself

Rhythmbox with xine. I have seen this at rhythmbox's site but I could
never compile it right(mainly because I suck at compiling and never took
the time to get it right, and then discover dag's rpm :) ). But I was
wondering did you compile this just for yourself? Or is there a rpm? I
only know of dags and his uses gstreamer.

Here they are, both 0.6.0 built with vorbis, mp3 and flac support, one with
the gstreamer backend and the other with the xine one :

http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/testing/1/

Matthias